Comments on: State of SEO Industry: Shoemoney & Danny Sullivan’s Most Significant Podcast Yet http://palatnikfactor.com/2008/01/24/state-of-seo-industry-shoemoney-danny-sullivan%e2%80%99s-most-significant-podcast-yet/ Online Marketing for Dummies Tue, 28 Jun 2011 09:22:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: METAPILOT http://palatnikfactor.com/2008/01/24/state-of-seo-industry-shoemoney-danny-sullivan%e2%80%99s-most-significant-podcast-yet/#comment-12583 METAPILOT Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:29:26 +0000 http://palatnikfactor.com/2008/01/24/shoemoney-danny-sullivan%e2%80%99s-most-significant-podcast-yet/#comment-12583 As with practitioners of most all professions, practitioners of SEO come in all shapes and sizes. There are good ones and bad ones; there are ones that practice their skills on their own and ones that practice their skills as a part of larger organizations; there are ones that love interacting with clients--from the initial sales call to the finale of a successful project; and there ones that can't stand client relationships so prefer to work on their own sites. In my experience, self promoters looking to rustle a few feathers tend to be the most boisterous dismissers of the SEO profession and ones that have a hard time understanding just what it is we do, come in a close second. I think we can all agree that Shoemoney is nothing if not an avid self promoter--and I'm sure he would agree with that, as well. As far as the statement that Danny Sullivan is dismissive of the SEO industry, I have a feeling that was taken out of content. As with practitioners of most all professions, practitioners of SEO come in all shapes and sizes. There are good ones and bad ones; there are ones that practice their skills on their own and ones that practice their skills as a part of larger organizations; there are ones that love interacting with clients–from the initial sales call to the finale of a successful project; and there ones that can’t stand client relationships so prefer to work on their own sites.

In my experience, self promoters looking to rustle a few feathers tend to be the most boisterous dismissers of the SEO profession and ones that have a hard time understanding just what it is we do, come in a close second.

I think we can all agree that Shoemoney is nothing if not an avid self promoter–and I’m sure he would agree with that, as well. As far as the statement that Danny Sullivan is dismissive of the SEO industry, I have a feeling that was taken out of content.

]]> By: Josh Garner http://palatnikfactor.com/2008/01/24/state-of-seo-industry-shoemoney-danny-sullivan%e2%80%99s-most-significant-podcast-yet/#comment-12124 Josh Garner Thu, 24 Jan 2008 18:51:39 +0000 http://palatnikfactor.com/2008/01/24/shoemoney-danny-sullivan%e2%80%99s-most-significant-podcast-yet/#comment-12124 I always enjoy listening to Danny on this topic. I'm a big fan of the idea of SEMPO or somebody getting a standardization or cert together, but it's such a difficult industry to do so. As for SEOs being too busy, I used to think that would be a good thing (before I was actually busy). But now I see posts like Shoe's and I get upset and wish I could dedicate more time to my blog, or educating new business owners at an SBA workshop...or anything to do this industry better. However, I don't agree that good SEOs are always busy, just the good ones that have been doing it for a while. There are some good new guys out there that find it difficult to find work. Thus my problem with all the black eyes we get. It makes it hard for new people to move up when they have to justify their services more than they get to actually provide the service. Maybe I'm too compassionate. I always enjoy listening to Danny on this topic. I’m a big fan of the idea of SEMPO or somebody getting a standardization or cert together, but it’s such a difficult industry to do so.

As for SEOs being too busy, I used to think that would be a good thing (before I was actually busy). But now I see posts like Shoe’s and I get upset and wish I could dedicate more time to my blog, or educating new business owners at an SBA workshop…or anything to do this industry better.

However, I don’t agree that good SEOs are always busy, just the good ones that have been doing it for a while. There are some good new guys out there that find it difficult to find work. Thus my problem with all the black eyes we get. It makes it hard for new people to move up when they have to justify their services more than they get to actually provide the service.

Maybe I’m too compassionate.

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